“Clinton acted when he had to. Quite honestly, I began to lose my faith in this country when the Republicans took every opportunity to demonize and mire Clinton to scandals so that many people would dislike him, not think of him as an effective leader when he was.

If Bill Clinton had been president, there might not have been a 9/11 for the following reasons: he took all intelligence seriously–he would have read, comprehended and acted on the August 6, 2001 memo–any prior memo’s and subsequent ones.”

Actually Clinton knew of pending attacks, possible dates, and avenues in his tenure as well. This information had been gathering and reported for about 6 years prior to the attacks on 9/11. If you go back into the press of the time right after 9/11, Clinton was 100% behind the attack, once we were committed, he back out, but he was vocally behind it at the onset. (Mind you, I don’t think we should be over there anymore, but feel we need to agressively get the locals taking care of themselves again, wihtout Saddam.)

I don’t think it is a Democratic vs Republican thing anymore. It’s about our system being 100% broken now. We need to get back to the intent of what our Founding Fathers wanted, as well as what We The People want out of our government.

I never changed my mind. I didn’t know what was really happening. I didn’t know that we were going to go after Bush’s enemy, not ours–and there was a difference

Roosevelt and his government knew what was happening during the Holocaust. Not in the beginning but they learned. They chose not to act. The American people didn’t know.

What we have learned since 9/11 is the difference. I’m not a big fan of the media. But had the media existed in its current form then we would have known. The train tracks would have been bombed. The concentration camps would have been liberated

Bush knew on August 6th that an attack was being planned. He chose not to do anything

The scandals Clinton were fighting were made up, stupid scandals. You’re right they should have left him with no time, yet he took every terrorist warning seriously.

Clinton acted when he had to. Quite honestly, I began to lose my faith in this country when the Republicans took every opportunity to demonize and mire Clinton to scandals so that many people would dislike him, not think of him as an effective leader when he was.

If Bill Clinton had been president, there might not have been a 9/11 for the following reasons: he took all intelligence seriously–he would have read, comprehended and acted on the August 6, 2001 memo–any prior memo’s and subsequent ones.

He read. Period. Our current president has the news told to him.
He said so last week.

Had 9/11 happened for whatever reasons, Clinton would have been on the job immediately.

About that–New York would have got the aid that it desperately needed–there wouldn’t have been pork barrel aid with more going to Montana as they have a sparse population which can’t make sense to anybody with any intelligence, or was it Wyoming? Just woke up.

We didn’t go to war for eighteen more months. Had we gone to war soon after 9/11 and had gone after the right enemy–I would have supported it with all my heart. So would have many New Yorkers.

But eighteen months later and Hussein rather than Bin Laden–no, no, no. So I never changed my mind. By the 3/19/03 I had lost all faith

Thank you for a thoughtful comment, and I truly mean that. It’s so much better to argue with somebody who isn’t coming from an attack mentality

I have thought about everything that you brought up. It became too real to me on 9/11.

But I also believe with all my heart that the Bush admin and the radical right set out to begin a civil war in this country

As a New York Jew, I had no idea how much we are hated until I began to blog. Not by most people. But many people in the radical right truly believe that The First Amendment established a national religion. It didn’t.

The Bush admin has allowed this thinking to ferment. As a blogger I do consider it my responsibility to help in any way possible to stop that thinking.

There are many Muslims who would love to see America become mired in this absurd civil war that we are fighting both with words and aid not given to the right people at the right time.

Yes, the Bush admin had no plan to win–but blames us for that somehow

Had they not gone to war looking for bogus wmd’s, had they gone to war with a stated true goal, maybe many people would have felt differently.

The Bush Admin has spread much propaganda–which was so brilliantly summed up by Karl Rove last June when he spoke to the Conservative club–in New York–and talked about liberals wanting therapy for the terrorists.

New York–therapy capital of the world–New York home to more Jews than any other city–many of whom are therapists, in therapy, or both

That day Rove became the symbol of a very sick admin to me that fights dirty and fights the American people. Then Plamegate–then Katrina made everything so plain

New York desperately needed aid and support. We got support from everybody but the federal government.

Remember the job fairs that stretched blocks near Penn Station? People in New York were very fiscally hurt by 9/11. Many still are.

I don’t have to wonder about a city without oil–my coop maintenance, food prices, health insurance and all fixed expenses have gone up so much I am leaving–for my emotional and financial health–I did the math–my expenses have gone up by 65% since 9/11. My maintenance had been borderline high for the space before 9/11–now it’s absurd.

I can still afford it because I did plan for the future–but will I be able to afford it in five or ten years? I don’t know

I am also leaving because I find other places to be much more interesting.

We are driving out the creative class, but that began before 9/11, and I don’t want to muddy issues.

The problem is I don’t know how to separate them

But the whole point is that Bush knew prior to 9/11 that there was a very real possiblity of an attack

Maybe he thought that because of the Florida election, he in particular, was immune to an attack

Vincent Buglisoi (sic?) the prosecuter in the Manson case and no liberal in anyway shape or form wrote a brilliant book about the Florida election that would have been much talked about and acted on had 9/11 not happened.

I pray that I’m wrong but sometimes I truly believe that Bush allowed 9/11 to happen for two reasons at least: that the truth about the Florida election never come out, and who cares about NY anyway?

We are a city based on immigrant labor and vitality. We are a city that historically has looked the other way when it comes to undocumented workers We are a city–that Moniyhan and Glasier talked about in beyond the melting pot as a city that many other cities dumped their weakest and poor into. Would give people a one way bus ticket to New York.