Comments on: Belles of the Brawls & the mosh pit of issues, revised

By: Pia savage

Pia savage — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:58:26 +0000

Thanks Dan–Cooper
Am closing comments to this as I’m sick and don’t want to get into this at all

By: dan

dan — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:43:24 +0000

Um, most stem cells used for research don’t actually come from the fetus iteself, but from the lining.

It’s a complete misnomer and ridiculous stupidity to call stem cell research abortion since they have nothing to do with each other.

It just goes to show you the media and politicians can make an issue out of anything.

By: MInTheGap

MInTheGap — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:04:55 +0000

Two points:
1. Just because they are preborn does not make them some other being– they are human with their own DNA. They are not “potential life” they are life. There have also been many discoveries with adult stem cells, and as far as embryonic being a “silver bullet” there’s no evidence– in fact there’s much to the opposite.

2. Why should someone who believes that you are killing life be forced to fund a procedure that in their mind destroys it? It’s like saying in the Civil War that those opposing slavery must pay for the upkeep of the local auction block.

It’s wrong to have federal funding whether you believe that the embryos are life or not.

By: cooper

cooper — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 01:48:52 +0000

I voted. I hope it was for the final. I can never tell with those voting places.

I miss Sar I haven’t been there in some time due to time and ….a job…

Stem cells research is close to my heart I have a good friend with JD and in high school we were both officers in student government and as freshman and hijacked it for the purpose of making sure our rep supported the stem cell bill that was present at that time.
I hope you have a great politics free summer.
You deserve it.

By: Pia savage

Pia savage — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 01:40:37 +0000

Lyn I believe that Callen didn’t chose her words carefully

I can’t imagine that any rational person would argue that abortion should be for convienence.

I’m sorry there is much more that I would like to say about the two points you brought up, but can’t tonight.

By: Lyn

Lyn — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:48:10 +0000

Sorry to continue this political and issue-oriented topic during your summer break, but I’ve been following the comments and feel I need to address this last perspective voiced by Callen Damornen: “If they are actually pro-life, do something with the living first and see to it those who are born will go to homes where they are wanted, otherwise they need to butt out of peopleâ€™s private lives.”

This is a red herring. I know of no pro-life person who isn’t concerned with doing “something with the living” (I take it Callen means caring for the baby after she or he is born either by supporting adoption or supporting the parents, whether single or married). To accuse pro-life proponants of focusing on the pre-born child to the exclusion of infant and mother/father care is quite ludicrous.

A second implication in Callen’s remark, however, is quite alarming, and that is that if a child is not wanted by her or his parents then that child can be destroyed … and that the pro-life movement should butt out of this area of “privacy”! Excuse me?! Did you actually mean what you just said? That it is okay to kill your preborn child if you don’t want it? Answer this first and then we can talk embryonic stem cell research. Simply agree or disagree: I can kill my child if I want.

By: Callen Damornen

Callen Damornen — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:03:25 +0000

There is so much sadness in the world. I cannot blame you for wanting to take a summer off from politics. I wish I could keep my mouth shut at times, but our dictator won’t let up.

I do not agree with Bush on stem cell research. These are unborn that were never going to be born in the first place. These are not the unborn that had a hope to be among the living. It is a situation of either throwing them in the trash or using them to help others. The priorities of the so-called pro-life movement is screwed up. If they are actually pro-life, do something with the living first and see to it those who are born will go to homes where they are wanted, otherwise they need to butt out of people’s private lives.

By: neva

neva — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 19:54:06 +0000

this was a lovely nod to Sar in support of her efforts to address political issues in a passionate-yet-sensible/intellectual fashion. which is why, i suspect, she’s enjoying the broad kind of readership she seems to attract (not unlike doug… and most certainly not unlike YOU!). those of us who lean in the same direction (left) salute you, (as well as Sar)!

now… moving through this so-called “mosh pit” (for it seems pretty dang logical to me):

as for the stem cell funding veto? the most eregious moment (for me) was hearing Bush spokesman, Tony Snow, refer to this kind of research as “murder”. murder? i can’t even wrap my mind around that one. i found the whole veto-photo-op-thing exploitive, offensive, and narrow-minded, to say the least.

but let’s *not* get political, young lady! you need to rest up… and get ready for your journey to the left coast, where politics are alive and well–albeit veiled in gossamer! (wouldn’t that be nice?) xox

By: jacob

jacob — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:18:19 +0000

No apologies ever needed.

I haven’t read that blog but will look at it and vote. There are many blogs I read that I think should be a lot more well known than they are that I feel odd voting for a blog I don’t read but if you recommend it I might have to start reading it.
I think you are the most famous blog I readon a regualr basis.

Oh I just tried to vote and it said can’t connect to server?

I’ll try again later.

By: Miz BoheMia

Miz BoheMia — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:28:42 +0000

Thanks for the mention dear Pia but I think it safe to say we were inspired by the best!