You don’t have to broadcast your point. Quiet conviction can be just as powerful.
My I village quickie horoscope. Keeping it in mind, I will say this:
To the people who think that 9/11 is the reason for the war in Iraq, and that we, who don’t support the war, have forgotten about 9/11, I have this to say:
It’s kind of hard to do in Manhattan even if I wanted to forget it.
Every day when I look downtown, I’m still amazed at the absent buildings in the skyline.
The other night I was being driven home from a restaurant with fave-family. There were ambulances and fire trucks around the West 72nd Street subway stop.
Fave niece, is ten, and just old enough to understand and be scared of everything, was in the car, so I didn’t say:
“oh, probably a plastic bag that somebody left, and had to be examined for explosives.”
I said “somebody probably fainted.”
It’s true; they send out the cavalry when somebody faints.
Fave family didn’t believe me
We’re a very prepared for anything city.
As I’ve said before: Most of us would have supported a war had it happened soon after and we had a defined purpose, and real targets.
I’m not going to mindlessly support a war that I don’t understand.
We’re not saving the world from evil; it feels more and more like Viet Nam where we went where we didn’t belong, and kept being sucked further into it.
I support the troops and hope that they will come home soon and in one piece.
I love my country.
I don’t understand how supporting a war makes a person more patriotic.
I don’t understand how not supporting a war makes a person a non patriotic leftie.
It’s so easy to hate. So easy to label.
So difficult to understand people who think differently than you.
That was a great post and I wished everyone felt the same way. Everyone has there own opinions and I agree with a few of yours, but I also have a few I have my own opinion on. And, what bugs me is that people can’t accept that not everyone will feel the same way as you do. As long as what you beleive in is something that matters to you, its all good. Thanks for the stop by with the kind comment.
Agree, or disagree with the war, HEARTFELT support of the troops is more than enough. Thanks.
“You don’t have to broadcast your point. Quiet conviction can be just as powerful.”
I completely agree – unless of course it’s one of those occassions when I’m screaming from a rooftop.
I totally agree with the non-labeling thing. If an informed person wants to have a discussion, I am all for it.
As much as you hate being called non-patriotic for not agreeing with the war, I hate being assumed to be stupid because I voted for Bush.
There are alot of people who don’t put thought into what is happening in the war and where they stand or in who to vote for. Those of us that do, get the ‘blame’ for the uninformed.
I agree with this posting fully. I thought it was beautiful and very thoughtful. It’s sad that things have come to the point where instead of appreciating our differences, we have to be in each other’s face about it!
Finally, BlogExplosion sends me to a blog worth reading!
Thank you for putting into words what many of us are thinking.
Can you name 5 public figures who have stated–in so many words– that anyone who doesn’t support the war is unpatriotic? Can you name one? Be sure to include the quote and cite the source. Provide a link if you can.
Jack commented in one of my posts that I said I wasn’t a linear thinker. He believes that certain “psychological conditions” may be indicators (or hallmarks as he called them) of people on the far left. One indicator is being a non-linear thinker. He wanted to know my politcal stance.
Anybody who reads my blog knows that I’m not exactly on the far left.
Since Jack asked that question, I wanted to know his mental health creditionals as only certain health professionals are allowed to make those diagnoses.
Hence his question.
Nowhere in this post did I imply, infer or state that I was talking about public figures.
That’s as far as I’ll go with that comment. It’s not worth it, but I thought some people might find it strange if not obnoxious, so I thought that I would give the history.
I was insulted by his first comment as it was so personal and unwarranted.
I find this one to be amusing.
Beautiful, Pia.
Excellent post and one of the many reasons I relish your blog and correspondence. 🙂 (Obviously Jack J. doesn’t know Jack Sh*t.)
Well done! Well said in both the post and in the reply to the comment!
Very well said, Pia. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve said the same in my blog. My only difference from you is that I don’t live in NYC.
I love the way my non-support for the war makes me a terrorist-lover. I supported Bush when our men went into Afghanistan, but I don’t support him any longer now that we’re in Iraq and now planning to go “coast to coast” in the middle east or to only those countries where our CEO’s can financially benefit from.
It’s a war to make more money for the rich.
I like the design/format of your blog. What did you use to create it?
OMM
My oh my, I do believe that you are the touchiest little creature I have ever run across. It seems that anyone that disagrees with you even a bit “insults” you.
Since you have stated you will no longer reply to me I don’t expect one, but promises like that just make me want to visit more and laugh even harder at your sad little whiny posts.
You have not seen the level personal attacks can be taken, now are you likely to from me dear. Suffice it to say that I can anger you beyond reason and cause you to need therapy even more than you so obviously do now.
Can’t help it. All Kenders are like this. Look it up:D
preach!
When I lived in Manhattan (years ago), I always felt safe and secure. Even though it was a CITY, I thought the people were loud and very generous. When 9/11 happened, I was of two minds: 1) I wanted to hop the first plane and help and 2) a little glad that I left Manhattan when I did. I suffered through a guilt complex for a while.
Very well said!
Kender, I will reply to this.
If you consider this to be a sad whiny piece, you’re truly sick.
I said I wouldn’t comment because of your rules on your blog about no personal attacking–no name calling.
I don’t do that, and I expect the people who comment to pay me the same courtesy.
And you have it wrong. I obviously have angered you beyond reason.
I’ve said it before, and will say it now. It’s people like you who will ensure that the party of your choice will not be in power in 2008.
Th blog as a whole is whiny. I am not angered at all….in fact I find thsi whole thing rather funny…..and just for you dear I have changed a bit of the text on my blog….but the header stays the same.
Kender, ok tough guy. And what’s with the hat? I can’t figure out if you’re trying to be the Elton John of the right or the unknown Matt Drudge.
The day Republicans and Liberals start getting along, I’m going to stand on my balcony nude.
Pia,
I tried to figure out what you were talking about with this Kender’s “personal attacks”. I read his (her?) one comment on the ‘Cao’ (never been there) post and it just didn’t add up. Did you delete a comment, or did he attack you on his blog?
I am not familiar with Kender, but your response was so different from what I’ve seen from you before that I looked for what he said, and couldn’t find it.
He has far too many spelling and grammar errors on his blog for me to read it. We all have our hang-ups…
Hey Pia, Glad to see so many good folks actualy respond here. Familiar faces like Hammer, sally, GeL.
Jacks question, while not in the right spot, certainly is an interesting one. I will dig through and find the quotes. Does public figure mean politician Jack, or any public figure? Certainly during the debates I can find several quotes from Bush and Dick questioning Kerry’s partiotism. Then you have people like Tom Delay. Oh and lets not forget the hatchet job on Tom Daschle because he dared to ask questions. Hm do Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hanity count as Public figures? I will go and find the quotes Jack, but if your the least bit honest, you will recognize the truth here.
Ugh and Kendar, might I suggest instead of playing here where Pia is to nice to smack your silly, illogical and semi coherant ranting s back the way she should – you come play with the big boys on my site? Or are you just a silly, short, insulting hobbit wanna be? Must be sad to have a life where the best you can do is make limp attacks at people instead of providing some sort of credible, factual arguement. But hey to each their own. When your ready to take the training wheels off, Bring it on.
The comments I refer to can be found athttps://courtingdestiny.com/archives/2005/03/06/only-a-muslim-is-capable-of-hating-this-much-and-if-you-believe-that-youre-not-my-kind-of-american/#comments
In his web site he had rules for comments including a no “bad name” rule. Yet he felt that he had the right and the responsiblity to come to my site because I’m a fool and a ninny who doesn’t think that the ACLU consists of a bunch of Communists.
His tone became increasingly hostile with each comment.
I probably would have laughed it off normally but I didn’t find it funny Sunday night.
His comments just made me sick: how could I dispute HIS knowledge of the ACLU?
Sorry I didn’t realize that Kender was the world’s leading authority on the ACLU
I would never delete a comment.
Have to be honest:
I have put one post back into draft and saved the comments also.
While Hammer I will answer your questions anytime, I felt it prudent to just cut the politics and some of the personal stuff, since it’s used to judge me, by Kender.
I went to his site today.
Well it’s his site and if he wants to use it to get me more traffic, he’s certainly welcome to that.
I’m explaining the history, not trying to stir things up.
I have no desire to be put down by a person who has a set view point he’ll never change.
(I know, it’s me–I’m an insane far leftie in need of deprogramming.)
And he feels free to come to other people’s sites, put them down, and then go to Cao’s site and brag about it.
But I bow to their superior understanding of life and every single cause.
Everything!
There’s not a thing that they’re not the foremost experts on.
And this post concludes the political part of Courting Destiny.
Wow, Pia. He was pretty nasty, right off of the bat. I am impressed with your restraint, actually. Thanks for taking the time to point me in the right direction.
I don’t come here for the politics, so I don’t mind its departure at all. I come for the mind of Pia!
Was that me you thought was nasty?
If so you have no clue what nasty is. Silly moonbats:D
Kender seems to have bowed out of our site also. LOL He can dish it out but he can’t take it. He went running to Cao who made a passing slur but never returned.
I respect your thoughts on labeling but, I’m for calling them as I see them and fighting fire with fire. I intend to stay ahead in the foodchain. 😉
Dianne
I didn’t bow out of your site…thelast three comments I tossed your way wouldn’t post…perhaps you found a way to ban me eh?
No Kender, Blogger doesn’t have this function and if it did we wouldn’t use it. Bring it on!
Kender
I read your comment in an e-mail, as I had just woken up and it was out of context, I sent you a private e-mail to let you know that I would never ban you.
As I consider comments to be part of the record of my sad little whiny posts, I will always keep yours.
As for therapy, I think that it’s an excellent idea for you to get some.
However these are the last political comments on this blog.
Do reserve the right to write about 9/11,in a social issue context, as it was the defining experience of my adult years. Know you think that I own it.
Me and every person who lives in the metro-New York area.
But I wouldn’t expect you to understand how it changed our economy and how more than three years later it still affects people’s daily lives.
You lack compassion and any empathy for anybody you don’t agree with.
For that I pity you.