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Belles of the Brawls & the mosh pit of issues, revised

July 23, 2006 By pia

Sar was nominated for best political blog at blogs of summer. She needs ten nominations to make it into the finals. Doug seconded whoever, thank you, nominated her, and I did whatever seconding the seconder is called.

Monday update: Sar made it into the finals. She’s the only person with an Impeach Bush banner. You can vote here.

I don’t nominate people for political blogging awards nor campaign much more than this. Just putting Sar’s nomination out there because Belle of the Brawl is a unique mix. We did meet brawling and have become friends which is why I love the name of her blog so much. Sar provides a place for people to feel safe when discussing issues and that is rare. Love people who mix things up. Life’s about much more than politics and issues. Sometimes we need cruises and James Spader–and Boston Legal better be back on in the fall.

The other blogs include Michelle Malkin’s who shouldn’t really be nominated for something like this. It looks like Sar’s blog is the only “left” leaning blog.

Yes, I’m off politics and issues for the summer. So this post is a mosh pit of issues

Bush’s veto of stem cell research was beyond sick. This is why I love Frank Rich, and wll make this into a page.

It’s not a choice of IVF babies or research. There would be more than enough for both. As an adoptee I admit to a strong prejudice against people who are so ego-filled that they won’t consider adoption. Am strongly pro-choice. But that’s not even the point.

Bush purposely paraded kids who would have been born and clouded the issue. The snowflake babies.

This country cares more about the rights of the unborn than the rights of the already living.

William F Buckley equates stem cell research with moral guidelines that Hitler might use. No it’s the opposite. It’s to save lives, not kill them. That didn’t link properly. Found it in Yahoo news or wherever somebody I once had respect for might write.

Hope that none of the Bushes ever develop a condition that might be cured or controlled with something derived from stem cells.

If you have ever seen somebody you love develop a debilitating condition and be told by all doctors that it might possibly be cured with stem cells, it hurts and that hurt never goes away completely because so many other people have or will develop conditions….It doesn’t make sense.

Bush is pandering to people who have no respect for human life.

If they did they would want Michael J Fox and millions more who are suffering from Parkinson’s disease to possibly be cured. So many other conditions. I’m a baby boomer with a vested interest. As an adoptee I really don’t know what conditions I might develop. As a nursing home social worker, I saw the sickest of the sick.

People with advanced Parkinson’s, and so called Parkinson’s dementia would answer your question 20 beats later, because they weren’t really demented, just in another time space. To know that they are aware of this is horrible.

I couldn’t work with older people anymore. It wasn’t the dying that disturbed me. It was the quality of life. Sometimes when people hear that I could no longer work with the very sick elderly, they think I lack compassion and guts. Of course these are the same people who think “old people are cute,” and dementia is a second childhood. No, most people fight it for years, even after it’s advanced.

I make no apologizes for not being able to handle something so sad. At the same time my Mom was aging too rapidly from Macular Degeneration. You don’t know how many times we were told, “stem cell research.” My mother died a tragic death that haunted me for years. While it doesn’t anymore, it’s in her memory that I care so passionately about this. Also hope to live until I’m old–a full and wonderful life.

Lyn who is sponsoring the blogs of summer has a very different take on this. Read her at blogging out loud. Please respect her blog.

And boobs. I have them. Therefore I have joined a new blogroll called bloggers with boobies. Don’t have to have them, just like and/or support women who do. Breast cancer is a subject for another time.

Pandering to the radical right is wrong, and I’m scared that this will give many people license to think that they can troll. Don’t even come here. I delete; and somebody else has the password for those rare times I’m not in front of a computer;

Filed Under: Uncategorized Tagged With: Adoption, Aging

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Comments

  1. Lyn says

    July 23, 2006 at 8:20 am

    Thanks for the link and mention in your post about Sar entering our fun little Blogs of Summer event. I’d posted a short blurb about Buckley’s column at Townhall.com and saw your rebuttal – I assume you read it. So updated my post to include a link to you. Not trying to be controversial, but I do like discussion. Thanks for taking it in that spirit. Have a great week, lgp

  2. Sar says

    July 23, 2006 at 9:30 am

    Thanks for the nod and support, Pia.

    This, Bush’s first and only veto, was indeed a huge disappointment. Embryonic stem cells are not sought because researchers are interested in stealing and quashing potential life forms. In fact, the embryonic stem cells in question are those that are routinely discarded by clinics. And the reason researchers are so interested in using embryonic stem cells is because they alone can be transformed into other types of body cells to replace damaged tissues.

    I fail to see how it’s morally responsible to discard the means behind a potential life saving medical miracle. Afterall, saving lives is being pro-life.

    Lyn – thanks again for the opportunity to participate in the BoS and to join in the discussion here.

  3. Carol Scibelli says

    July 23, 2006 at 11:27 am

    Hi Pia,
    Thanks for your kind and wise words…It’s good to be writing again and love your blog and posts as always.
    Started the NY Times Mag. article about the heartbreaking responsibility to decide who keeps the children. Will participate in discussion when I finish it…
    Al Gore is the only choice I see, too.

  4. Gina says

    July 23, 2006 at 7:40 pm

    just stoping through on the blog surf. while I quite agree with you on the stem cell research issue, i dont know if I disagree with the former Kinship adoption plan. As a former NJ resident, I am literally going thorough hell trying to adopt my niece who’s mother is irresponsible. It seems that D.Y.F.S. favor’s the foster family and I am not being given due consideration.

  5. shelly says

    July 24, 2006 at 3:11 am

    I don’t think Sar’s blog, from what I just saw, is even that political. Yours is more political than hers. (Why do I always find out about these blogging awards way too late?!)

  6. Miz BoheMia says

    July 24, 2006 at 3:56 am

    Voted for Sar already! Fingers crossed and agree with everything you say!

    Words cannot describe how much I despise Bush and for my part, I banke the cord blood of both my children and in doing so and paying the maintenance fees support the cause in my own way…

    The whole thing, Bushco and the chaos that has ensued everywhere since their arrival, is a sick, sick joke…

  7. Pia savage says

    July 24, 2006 at 4:08 am

    Sar, in her gentle sweet way, manages to maintain a blog that gives many people a voice to discuss issues.

    My personal favorite was the Wombat‘s.
    rant several months ago.

    Lyn, it’s really good to meet you. Always welcome civilized discourse though I am off issues and politics for at least the summer.

    Burnt and real life calls. Shelly my blog and I need a rest from anything but ourselves and our many other interests. However my blog says she might host discussions on some issues. I will write if I find a burning need to–won’t moderate or hostess–something Sar does incredibly well.

    My blogging “girl” friends such as Sar, Cooper, MizB, and Shayna mix things up like nobody eles.

    Carol, glad that you’re blogging again.

    G I wasn’t looking at kinship adoption from your perspecitive but strictly from my work and schooling–which is why I want to hear from other people about it

    Realize this is the mosh pit of issues, issues post, but really really want Courting to be more personal, though….

  8. Doug says

    July 24, 2006 at 6:08 pm

    That was a nice promo. No little boy should be called a “snowflake.” It sends the wrong message.

  9. Miz BoheMia says

    July 24, 2006 at 6:58 pm

    Thanks for the mention dear Pia but I think it safe to say we were inspired by the best!

  10. jacob says

    July 24, 2006 at 11:48 pm

    No apologies ever needed.

    I haven’t read that blog but will look at it and vote. There are many blogs I read that I think should be a lot more well known than they are that I feel odd voting for a blog I don’t read but if you recommend it I might have to start reading it.
    I think you are the most famous blog I readon a regualr basis.

    Oh I just tried to vote and it said can’t connect to server?

    I’ll try again later.

  11. neva says

    July 25, 2006 at 1:24 am

    this was a lovely nod to Sar in support of her efforts to address political issues in a passionate-yet-sensible/intellectual fashion. which is why, i suspect, she’s enjoying the broad kind of readership she seems to attract (not unlike doug… and most certainly not unlike YOU!). those of us who lean in the same direction (left) salute you, (as well as Sar)!

    now… moving through this so-called “mosh pit” (for it seems pretty dang logical to me):

    as for the stem cell funding veto? the most eregious moment (for me) was hearing Bush spokesman, Tony Snow, refer to this kind of research as “murder”. murder? i can’t even wrap my mind around that one. i found the whole veto-photo-op-thing exploitive, offensive, and narrow-minded, to say the least.

    but let’s *not* get political, young lady! you need to rest up… and get ready for your journey to the left coast, where politics are alive and well–albeit veiled in gossamer! (wouldn’t that be nice?) xox

  12. Callen Damornen says

    July 25, 2006 at 1:33 am

    There is so much sadness in the world. I cannot blame you for wanting to take a summer off from politics. I wish I could keep my mouth shut at times, but our dictator won’t let up.

    I do not agree with Bush on stem cell research. These are unborn that were never going to be born in the first place. These are not the unborn that had a hope to be among the living. It is a situation of either throwing them in the trash or using them to help others. The priorities of the so-called pro-life movement is screwed up. If they are actually pro-life, do something with the living first and see to it those who are born will go to homes where they are wanted, otherwise they need to butt out of people’s private lives.

  13. Lyn says

    July 25, 2006 at 5:18 am

    Sorry to continue this political and issue-oriented topic during your summer break, but I’ve been following the comments and feel I need to address this last perspective voiced by Callen Damornen: “If they are actually pro-life, do something with the living first and see to it those who are born will go to homes where they are wanted, otherwise they need to butt out of people’s private lives.”

    This is a red herring. I know of no pro-life person who isn’t concerned with doing “something with the living” (I take it Callen means caring for the baby after she or he is born either by supporting adoption or supporting the parents, whether single or married). To accuse pro-life proponants of focusing on the pre-born child to the exclusion of infant and mother/father care is quite ludicrous.

    A second implication in Callen’s remark, however, is quite alarming, and that is that if a child is not wanted by her or his parents then that child can be destroyed … and that the pro-life movement should butt out of this area of “privacy”! Excuse me?! Did you actually mean what you just said? That it is okay to kill your preborn child if you don’t want it? Answer this first and then we can talk embryonic stem cell research. Simply agree or disagree: I can kill my child if I want.

  14. Pia savage says

    July 25, 2006 at 7:10 am

    Lyn I believe that Callen didn’t chose her words carefully

    I can’t imagine that any rational person would argue that abortion should be for convienence.

    I’m sorry there is much more that I would like to say about the two points you brought up, but can’t tonight.

  15. cooper says

    July 25, 2006 at 7:18 am

    I voted. I hope it was for the final. I can never tell with those voting places.

    I miss Sar I haven’t been there in some time due to time and ….a job…

    Stem cells research is close to my heart I have a good friend with JD and in high school we were both officers in student government and as freshman and hijacked it for the purpose of making sure our rep supported the stem cell bill that was present at that time.
    I hope you have a great politics free summer.
    You deserve it.

  16. MInTheGap says

    July 25, 2006 at 6:34 pm

    Two points:
    1. Just because they are preborn does not make them some other being– they are human with their own DNA. They are not “potential life” they are life. There have also been many discoveries with adult stem cells, and as far as embryonic being a “silver bullet” there’s no evidence– in fact there’s much to the opposite.

    2. Why should someone who believes that you are killing life be forced to fund a procedure that in their mind destroys it? It’s like saying in the Civil War that those opposing slavery must pay for the upkeep of the local auction block.

    It’s wrong to have federal funding whether you believe that the embryos are life or not.

  17. dan says

    July 25, 2006 at 8:13 pm

    Um, most stem cells used for research don’t actually come from the fetus iteself, but from the lining. 🙂

    It’s a complete misnomer and ridiculous stupidity to call stem cell research abortion since they have nothing to do with each other.

    It just goes to show you the media and politicians can make an issue out of anything.

  18. Pia savage says

    July 25, 2006 at 8:28 pm

    Thanks Dan–Cooper
    Am closing comments to this as I’m sick and don’t want to get into this at all

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  2. Bloggin' Outloud says:
    July 23, 2006 at 8:14 am

    I Do In Fact Support Bush

    However, his veto of publically funded embryonic stem cell research is not only to be applauded, but Bush should be honored as a man of integrity and respected as a moral leader, at least in this area. Read Bill Buckley and tell me I’m wrong.

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